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De One · Feb 13, 2006, 03:09 AM // 03:09

I use a sword but alot of my friends tell me to switch to an axe. Do axes do more dmg then swords? I kno that axes do more dmg on the occasions but they also to less dmg unlike the sword it has a balance dmg. Which weapon type is better axe or sword? Btw this is for pve and also pvp

Misc Merik · Feb 13, 2006, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Cant say swords are all that great in pvp. Id have to say axe is a good idea after all the fact victos axe and the razorstone have held thier value longer than the green swords have is a dead give away. As far as swords go I noticed they are really good in pve because the bleeding degen followed by the deep wound on most monsters is just awsome. In pvp its more "o noes bleeding and gash monk types LOL ~mend ailment~ gg sword war". The axe is a bit different it has no degen so the mod for it that lengthens bleeding confuses me but the attacks have a significant amount of dmg to them especially eviscerate you should try that its cool and it works great in pve especially on the monsters that cant bleed which owns the bleeding gash bit from swords. In pvp axes are serious spiking weapon blatently shown with gale w/e and sadly yes iway w/r. Yes I think switching to an axe is a good idea but its up to you its your char do what you want have fun with it.

Mistical miss · Feb 13, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23

For PvE I would go with the sword, I mean, come on, swords look way cooler ^_^

Sword works nicely with some tactics skills(riposte) and final thrust just feels so good

Or get both Sword and Axe, inflict a hell lot of conditions (bleeding deep wound weakness....go secondary ranger for apply poison:P)
and Victory is Mine, add frenzy/flurry to that and all will go great (not on enchanted swords, nor jade armors, but apart from that ^_^)

Nessaja · Feb 13, 2006, 10:21 AM // 10:21

Swords and axes, it's an endless debate.

But take this from an ex-axe user, while axes are better for a high dps over time, you don't kill things with high dps, unless there is no monk around.

What REALLY kills is spike damage, a sword can, with gash + final thurst, kill a 60 armor target from 60% HP - and that's HARD to heal for a monk. Try it out on the battle isles on the targets, hit sever atery, wait till your target is on 60% and spike with final thurst and gash, an axe can't kill like that.

Also, axes REQUIRE their elite to be Eviscerate, a Sword Warrior can bring Charge so he can Frenzy while moving 25% faster (or tigers fury) hitting critical damage in quick succesion on running targets.

So, DPS and decent spike, go axe, for a killer spike go swords

Kassad · Feb 13, 2006, 10:33 AM // 10:33

Or ditch both and go for the caster-killing hammer, they will sure love being on their ass 3/4 of the time. Fun in RA/CA (Whatever you want to call it) start bashing something to get full adren, then just switch on the monk and kill him in ~5 secs.

Minus Sign · Feb 13, 2006, 11:43 AM // 11:43

EDIT: If your friends are telling you to switch to axe, its probably because the build and playstyle you (and they) preffer using would prove more effective with axe skills. That or they don't know any better.

As its been said, its an age old discussion. I've played as a Warrior with all three weapons and all have their strengths and weaknesses:

Swords use bleed skills to add a little extra DoT (thats Damage Over Time to you non-EQ1 peeps) to team attacks. Hitting an enemy can be healed with a standard Orison. Blled+poison+Conjure Phantasm+Siphon=ouch. But, at least in PvE, if the monster is imune to Bleeding skills, it weakens the swords effectivness. Most heavy hitters (people who like to do damage) and condition castors love to use and see the sword.

Axe on the other hand has one all too often overlooked skill: Disrupting Chop. A 20 second disable to whatever skill the enemy is using with the original interupt. That makes it a great Elite buster when you'll be staring down hard bosses like Yakslapper (Mark of Prot *shivers*). And while Evicerate is a great skill (especially when you invest in a Tanzit's Cleaver), I find Cleave gives more Damage per hit because it charges twice as fast and removes your need to do Deep Wound damage to be effective. Becaue its almost as fast as the sword, you still do plenty of damage even without bleeding. Adding Distracting Blow to this build makes axe the weapon of choice for interupt tanks

And then there's the red headed stepchild of both preffered weapons: the hammer. Since its a 2-handed weapon and slower to strike, most warriors shun its use if they don't scoff outright when they see it in my hand. That is, until I get close to their castors in PvP. Knockdown Elites like Dwarven battle Stance or (my fav on hammer) Earthshaker can cause a serious chaos moment among PvP groups. And these are humans who know to avoid my tank; think of the havoc it causes against AI! I also find it easier to get off critical hits with a hammer attack, and thats nothing to sneeze at when you factor in the hammers base damage is the highest in the game, that your weakest strike will be nearly as strong as the highest critical hit from both other weapons. But still, no shield means no extra shield buffs. hmm...

My personal prefference is now shifted back to axe. I like the interupts i do, and have plenty of good green shields to make my dear old Bludgeoner outmodded. That may change in a SF gear farm though, since Icy Dragons+Spinal Shivers= zero casts from my target. And you're right Mistical miss; it looks really cool when i whip that thing out

Its all about the team you're with and the enemies you're fighting against. I reccomend trying all 3. Play the game; don't be obsessed with the best build all the time. Get messy and make mistakes. Who knows, you might just make the next uber build in the doing.

Kassad · Feb 13, 2006, 11:47 AM // 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minus Sign

Its all about the team you're with and the enemies you're fighting against. I reccomend trying all 3. Play the game; don't be obsessed with the best build all the time. Get messy and make mistakes. Who knows, you might just make the next uber build in the doing.

I use all 3, but hardly ever sword. Mostly hammer, and at times, axe. As you said, good to try all to see which one fits with/in your style.

Rainy Ico · Feb 16, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

Personally. I like using the sword in pvp. Mainly because swords have better skills (to compensate for damage). So you can link a bunch of skills together and do mucho grandes damage.

LouAl · Feb 16, 2006, 01:07 AM // 01:07

I have tried all three, but I almost always prefer the hammer. It is like Minus Sign said, the weakest attack is almost as much as the sword's max attack, and I REALLY love Dwarven Battle Stance. On the other hand there are some great skills with all three all you have to do is find what works best for you.

Venenatus Ensis · Feb 16, 2006, 01:11 AM // 01:11

axes are good because they have better adrenaline skills and more max damage than swords. swords, however, have skills like riposte and deadly riposte and can also cause bleeding. it all depends on your situation. personally, i prefer the axe but i use a sword when i am wurm farming.

sh4ft3d · Feb 16, 2006, 02:35 AM // 02:35

I use a sword for many condition builds. They have higher average damage, and can inflict more conditions in less time. Final thrust is the most amazing warrior skill of all time. Nothing can beat that for pure damage. ViM builds are swords all the way.

SnipiousMax · Feb 16, 2006, 06:11 AM // 06:11

I like Hundred Blade + Final Thrust Spikes, so I prefer sword.... Although I use Axe too. IMO one doesn't outdistance the other, and they're fairly balanced.

desolatorman · Feb 16, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

nothing much different...
axe has low min dmg, but high max dmg
also has eviserate (pwning skill)
not much skill variety

sword has average min and max dmg
has a variety of skills to choose from

Warskull · Feb 16, 2006, 06:24 AM // 06:24

They each have their advantages and disadvantages. Due to axe's wider damage spread, it has really nasty crits and slightly higher DPS. However the difference isn't enough to matter. Thus axe vs sword really boils down to the skills.

Axes have a large number of +damage adrenaline skills. They spike extremely well in a single strike with eviscerate and can put out some very nice pressure damage. However as an axe player you really need your elite slot to make the most out of your weapon. Adrenaline heavy axe characters are very easy to make also.

Sword has a few really good spikes and a few great skills. The server, gash, final combo is extremely nasty when properly used. However at the same time this sword combo is less spammable than axe combos and takes longer to build. Sword is much more flexible on choice of elite also. You don't have a lot of flexibility with your adrenaline skills as a sword warrior so diversified builds tend to be a bit energy intensive.

thugsline · Feb 16, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

Hamstring ftw..

asdar · Feb 16, 2006, 12:22 PM // 12:22

Axes are the highest damage per second

Hammers are the best disrupters

Swords are the best if you want an off class elite

That's my opinion of course and I'm no expert on all the math. Taking out an elite in either hammer or axe crushes the build but not so much sword.

Yakumo · Feb 16, 2006, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mistical miss

For PvE I would go with the sword, I mean, come on, swords look way cooler ^_^

I only ever use swords... and for that reason alone.

Absynthe · Feb 16, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

I use an axe almost for the basic reason ......not all things bleed. I also have an axe that you get extra adrenaline on attack

Aven · Feb 17, 2006, 02:24 AM // 02:24

Pve I'ma stancer so I usually running a crowd control so I go axe which has very nice aoe skill Cyclone axe stacked with adreniline based skills over the high cost of sword skills not like tanks have uber energy or anything I preffer axe I may not be able to drop enemies as fast as a sword but in PvE when is the tank really the major damage dealer... his job is to go aggro first.. gather as many aggro as possible and stay alive while tackling the masses... while the other more effective damage dealers take out the rather distracted enemies that are beating on the tank.... PvP axe vs sword bout even for me

best of ascalon · Feb 17, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

In the beginning in the game i prefer sword for server artery and gash, While you are lvl 15 i would switch 2 axe.